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Rushdie visit to India, Indian Muslims divided about reaction 
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Desi-Patriot 
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2/17/99
I think most people will agree that granting Rushdie is the only step
forward...
  NEW DELHI, Feb 17 (AFP) - India's vast Moslem minority appears
divided over the prospect of British writer Salman Rushdie's 
proposed return to the land of his birth. 
   India was the first country to ban Rushdie's book "The Satanic
Verses" -- considered blasphemous by many Moslems -- and until 
earlier this month had refused to grant him a visa to visit India. 
   Now a visa has been issued, a furious debate has broken out
among the country's 125 million-strong Moslem community -- the 
second largest in the world. 
   "Almost 99.99 percent of Moslems oppose Salman Rushdie coming
into India," asserted Zahid Ali Khan, editor of "Siyasat", one of 
the widest circulated Urdu-language dailies. 
   "Moslems cannot forgive anybody who has written a single word
against the Holy Prophet," he said by telephone from his office in 
the southern city of Hyderabad. 
   Khan's comments mirrored those of Ahmed Bukhari, a priest at
India's largest mosque, the Jama Masjid in New Delhi, who slammed 
the decision by India's ruling Hindu nationalists to grant Rushdie a 
visa, and warned of violent consequences if the author went through 
with the trip. 
   "While the Indian constitution granted the right to freedom of
expression, it also says that people's sentiments should not be 
hurt," Bukhari said. 
   Rushdie picked up his visa last month in London, but gave no
indication as to when he might use it. 
   The late Iranian leader Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini issued a
death sentence against Rushdie 10 years ago over "The Satanic 
Verses". 
   Iran last year distanced itself from the death warrant but
Rushdie remains under threat from fundamentalist Moslem groups. An 
influential Iranian religious foundation insisted at the weekend 
that the death sentence would be carried out. 
   Moslem activists held demonstrations in New Delhi and Bombay
last week, burning effigies of Rushdie and calling on the government 
to revoke the visa. 
   But not all Indian Moslems have joined the ranks of the
protestors. 
   "This call to stop Rushdie from coming to India is nonsense,"
said Wahiduddin Khan, a Moslem scholar whose moderate views have 
often clashed with others in the community. 
   "Bukhari is the imam of one mosque," Khan said. "There are
400,000 mosques in India. Who made these people the spokesmen of 
Indian Moslems?" 
   Khan said he had read "The Satanic Verses" and found it "a badly
written" book. 
   "From the literary point of view, it's not a good novel. But I
would not call it blasphemous." 
   Some Moslems opposed to Rushdie's visit feel the Hindu
nationalist-dominated government is deliberately stirring up 
communal feelings for its own ends. 
   Hindu extremists like the rabidly anti-Moslem chief of the
militant Shiv Sena party, Bal Thackeray, have certainly been quick 
to put their particular political slant on the discussions. 
   "Why should we oppose (Rushdie's) visit here. He has written
against Islam hasn't he?" Thackeray said. 
   While opposing Rushdie's visit, Intezar Naeem, who edits a
Moslem weekly in New Delhi, bemoaned the knee-jerk reaction of the 
hardliners. 
   "There is no doubt some people in our community are
intentionally blowing it out of proportion," Naeem said, while at 
the same time accusing the government of double standards. 
   "On the one hand eminent Islamic theologists from Pakistan are
barred from coming into India, but Rushdie is given a visa. It's 
rubbing salt into our wounds." 
   Outside intellectual circles, there is a degree of indifference
towards the whole controversy. 
   An autorickshaw driver, Saleem, said he had no idea who Rushdie
was. 
   "We don't know these things," he said. "We are bothered about
everyday lives, our bread and butter. I am not into politics." 
                    
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2/18/99
>(Desi-Patriot)
>Date: 2/17/99 11:43 AM Central Standard Time
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>
>I think most people will agree that granting Rushdie is the only step
>forward... 
>
I seen two post about Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  Indian muslims are not
against him visiting India but the real intention behind granting him visa.
Indian Muslims believe that shia-community which supports BJP and its
shia-minister in BJP govt could be danger to Rush-to-die.  Indian Muslims also
believe that Shiva Sena could pull the trigger on Rush-to-die for potraying Bal
Thackery bad way in one of his book.  Indian Muslims also believe that
International hungry BJP govt could also pull the trigger and blame on Muslims.
The conclusion is BJP govt is dangerious for Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  He
should visit India when there is a change of government in India.. ..
sk...@my-dejanews.com 
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2/18/99
In article <36caff6f...@news.antw.online.be>,

  Ind...@iloveindia.com wrote:
> I think most people will agree that granting Rushdie is the only step
> forward...
The first step forward in behaving like a normal civilised nation, yes.

>    "Almost 99.99 percent of Moslems oppose Salman Rushdie coming
> into India," asserted Zahid Ali Khan, editor of "Siyasat", one of
> the widest circulated Urdu-language dailies.
>    "Moslems cannot forgive anybody who has written a single word
> against the Holy Prophet," he said by telephone from his office in
> the southern city of Hyderabad.
Sorry, pal, we don't believe your unsubtantiated '99.99 percent figure'. And
even if it were 100% opposition, a person of Indian origin cannot be denied
entry into India.
>    Khan's comments mirrored those of Ahmed Bukhari, a priest at
> India's largest mosque, the Jama Masjid in New Delhi, who slammed
> the decision by India's ruling Hindu nationalists to grant Rushdie a
> visa, and warned of violent consequences if the author went through
> with the trip.
Well, if he wants violence he may be granted his wish.
>    "While the Indian constitution granted the right to freedom of
> expression, it also says that people's sentiments should not be
> hurt," Bukhari said.
Yes, our constitution makes no provisions for easily hurt sentiments of its
people. It only makes provisions for our rights as citizens not as sentimental
beings.
>    Moslem activists held demonstrations in New Delhi and Bombay
> last week, burning effigies of Rushdie and calling on the government
> to revoke the visa.
Sorry, the only way to revoke the visa is to take control of India and change
the constitution.
>    But not all Indian Moslems have joined the ranks of the
> protestors.
Exactly. Why should one waste one's time to support the ones whose full time
career is relgion based politics.
>    "This call to stop Rushdie from coming to India is nonsense,"
> said Wahiduddin Khan, a Moslem scholar whose moderate views have
> often clashed with others in the community.
>    "Bukhari is the imam of one mosque," Khan said. "There are
> 400,000 mosques in India. Who made these people the spokesmen of
> Indian Moslems?"
So much for 99.99 percent figure.
>    Khan said he had read "The Satanic Verses" and found it "a badly
> written" book.
>    "From the literary point of view, it's not a good novel. But I
> would not call it blasphemous."
It is only a book. A piece of fiction. But for some, it is their ticket to
religious fame.
>    Some Moslems opposed to Rushdie's visit feel the Hindu
> nationalist-dominated government is deliberately stirring up
> communal feelings for its own ends.
It is obvious that the Government is taking advantage of the this situation
where an Indian cannot be denied entry on any grounds. That is the price to
pay for living in secular country.
>    Hindu extremists like the rabidly anti-Moslem chief of the
> militant Shiv Sena party, Bal Thackeray, have certainly been quick
> to put their particular political slant on the discussions.
>    "Why should we oppose (Rushdie's) visit here. He has written
> against Islam hasn't he?" Thackeray said.
That's funny as Salman Rushdie has written against the Shiv Sena also. That is
why I like Salman R, he stands up to oppressors and crooks everywhere.
>    While opposing Rushdie's visit, Intezar Naeem, who edits a
> Moslem weekly in New Delhi, bemoaned the knee-jerk reaction of the
> hardliners.
>    "There is no doubt some people in our community are
> intentionally blowing it out of proportion," Naeem said, while at
> the same time accusing the government of double standards.
>    "On the one hand eminent Islamic theologists from Pakistan are
> barred from coming into India, but Rushdie is given a visa. It's
> rubbing salt into our wounds."
Naeem's standards of double standards stops when it comes to Islam itself.
What business have Pakistani theologists visiting India ? Are Hindu
theologists allowed to visit Pakistan ? As for rubbing salt into his
sensitive wounds, perhaps he should examine the wounds that Hindus have had
to suffer under benign Muslim conquerors.
>    Outside intellectual circles, there is a degree of indifference
> towards the whole controversy.
>    An autorickshaw driver, Saleem, said he had no idea who Rushdie
> was.
>    "We don't know these things," he said. "We are bothered about
> everyday lives, our bread and butter. I am not into politics."
It goes to show that only educated people are the root of most problems and
that they have the gall to blame the 'uneducated, the easily excitable
rickshawwallas" while coming out with terms like '99.99 percent' and 'rub
salt into our wounds'.
         Subir De.
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Desi-Patriot 
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2/19/99
On Thu, 18 Feb 1999 15:14:19 GMT, sk...@my-dejanews.com wrote:

>>    Khan said he had read "The Satanic Verses" and found it "a badly
>> written" book.
>>    "From the literary point of view, it's not a good novel. But I
>> would not call it blasphemous."
>
>It is only a book. A piece of fiction. But for some, it is their ticket to
>religious fame.
>
That is exactly what i am saying, a few Influential people who seek
attention with the media are trying to associate themselves with the
Iranian Mullahs who arranged the fatwa...Rushdie's got nothing to do
with all this crap and neither does the book....a few people who want
to prove themselves are trying to cause a lot of trouble, and they are
succeding.

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On 18 Feb 1999 02:09:30 GMT, mun...@aol.com (Muna123) wrote:
>>I think most people will agree that granting Rushdie is the only step
>>forward... 
>I seen two post about Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  Indian muslims are not
>against him visiting India but the real intention behind granting him visa. 
>
>Indian Muslims believe that shia-community which supports BJP and its
>shia-minister in BJP govt could be danger to Rush-to-die.  Indian Muslims also
>believe that Shiva Sena could pull the trigger on Rush-to-die for potraying Bal
>Thackery bad way in one of his book.  Indian Muslims also believe that
>International hungry BJP govt could also pull the trigger and blame on Muslims.
>
>The conclusion is BJP govt is dangerious for Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  He
>should visit India when there is a change of government in India.. ..
I dont think so, i still dont agree why you keep insisting BJP is so
anti-minority when you can see from all the facts it has not done
anything against minorities.
I was always for freedom of speech,etc when the film Fire was there,
but i thought it stupid to have some things banned and some things
not, Bal Thackeray is obviosuly annoyed with Rushdie about that book
so how can you say he rules the BJP, Thackeray hates Rushdie as much
as the Mullah who placed a fatwas on Rushdie without reading the
book...
All this protests is being oprhcestrated by a tiny minority of
attention seeking idiots who have a lot of influence, but nothing is
going to happy so people dont get your hopes up...Rushdie's probably
already landed in India without us knowing...
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>Date: 2/19/99 11:41 AM Central Standard Time
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>
>On 18 Feb 1999 02:09:30 GMT, mun...@aol.com (Muna123) wrote:
>
>>>I think most people will agree that granting Rushdie is the only step
>>>forward... 
>>I seen two post about Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  Indian muslims are not
>>against him visiting India but the real intention behind granting him visa. 
>>
>>Indian Muslims believe that shia-community which supports BJP and its
>>shia-minister in BJP govt could be danger to Rush-to-die.  Indian Muslims
>also
>>believe that Shiva Sena could pull the trigger on Rush-to-die for potraying
>Bal
>>Thackery bad way in one of his book.  Indian Muslims also believe that
>>International hungry BJP govt could also pull the trigger and blame on
>Muslims.
>>
>>The conclusion is BJP govt is dangerious for Indian Muslim Rush-to-die.  He
>>should visit India when there is a change of government in India.. ..
>
>I dont think so, i still dont agree why you keep insisting BJP is so
>anti-minority when you can see from all the facts it has not done
>anything against minorities.

FRONTLLINE
Vol. 16 :: No. 03 :: Jan. 30 - Feb. 12, 1999
A catalogue of crimes
by PRAVEEN SWAMI
 AFTER shaming India with the demolition of the Babri Masjid
on December 6,1992, the Bharatiya Janata Party and its patron
bodies in the Sangh Parivar sought to project a new moderation.
Propelled to power by their flagrant communal campaign in March
1998, Hindutva formations claimed that they would conduct
themselves in a responsible manner and respect the country's
Constitution and its laws.
However, communal incidents that occurred from March 1998
onwards reveal that precisely the reverse has been true. Although
there were no major communal riots during this period, the
Rashtriya Swayamsevak Sangh (RSS), the Vishwa Hindu
Parishad (VHP), the Bajrang Dal, the Shiv Sena and other
Hindutva forces were engaged in the systematic intimidation
of minority communities. This compilation by Frontline is far
from comprehensive. Put together from newspaper reports, human
rights investigations and documentation prepared by independent
and community groups,Frontline's list excludes dozens of claims
of communal violence and instances of hate propaganda which
appeared to lack integrity, precision or clarity. Programmes such
as the communal- and caste-biased encounters engineered by the
BJP in Uttar Pradesh and the Shiv Sena in Mumbai were left out
altogether because of difficulties in ascertaining exactly which
killings
were motivated by religious hate.
 The scores of specific manifestations of hate politics that Frontline
has compiled range from outright violence to propagandistic activity.
Concentrated mostly in Gujarat and Maharashtra, the incidents give
an insight into the Hindu Right's current agenda. Attacks on Muslims
account for just over a quarter of the total. This marks a shift from
the pattern of single-minded attacks on Muslims that spearheaded the
Hindutva campaign in the early 1990s. Only one incident - in Jammu
and Kashmir -involved loss of life to Muslims. The vast majority of
attacks, in which damage to property and injuries were common,
were aimed at Christians. In one incident VHP members attacked
a group of human rights activists, mistaking them for missionary
workers.
                                          1998
March 2, Gujarat: People distributing leaflets about a Christian
meeting at the Vadodara Polo Ground are attacked by Bajrang
Dal, Durga Vahini and VHP cadre. Among those injured is a
pregnant woman, who is repeatedly kicked in the stomach.
The police detain the people who are attacked, but not the attackers.
  March 4, Gujarat: A meeting of evangelists at the Vadodara Polo
Ground is disrupted by VHP-Bajrang Dal cadre, who injure several
people. (A day earlier the same activists attempted to set the stage on
fire.)
March 13, Maharashtra: Alleged Hindu fundamentalists attack
Christian pilgrims in Khanvel.
 March 16, Uttar Pradesh: Bajrang Dal activists attack a Christian
meeting in Kanpur, resulting in injuries to several people and loss
of property.
March 19, Jammu and Kashmir: Four Muslims are beaten to
death in Karara near Doda by RSS workers in reprisal for the
killing of an RSS worker two days earlier by a different group
of Muslims for allegedly molesting a local girl.
April 11, Gujarat: Alleged VHP-Bajrang Dal activists armed
with hockey sticks, cricket bats and rods, attack a Christian
group observing Passion Week in Palanpur.
April 16, Gujarat: A church under construction is brought down
at Naroda near Ahmedabad. (The structure appears to have
been built without legal approvals, but temples nearby, which
were also constructed without the necessary legal approvals,
were not touched.)
May 3, Maharashtra: Shiv Sena activists disrupt a concert by
Pakistani ghazal singer Ghulam Ali in Mumbai.
May 8, Jammu and Kashmir: Mobs of RSS workers in Poonch
destroy government buildings and attempt to attack Muslim
homes in protest against the killing of four people by terrorists in
Surankot.
May 11, Maharashtra: Shiv Sena activists assault a missionary,
Octavio Nevis, in Ambernath.
May 15, Bihar: Modestus Tirkey, headmaster of a Catholic school,
is attacked in Ranchi.
May 18, Gujarat: Hindu fundamentalists attack a Catholic priest,
Xavier Amalraj, at Pilpilvada near Zankhav.
June 16, Maharashtra: The St. Savariyar Church in Srilankapada
slum in Mumbai's Malad suburb is demolished. Unauthorised
Hindu structures are, however, left untouched.
June 17, Gujarat: St. Xavier's School and Lourdes Convent in
Surat are served with orders by the Collector, Surat. Records
of admissions and applications are confiscated. School officials
claim that this is done to harass them.
June 21, Gujarat: A prayer hall is burnt down in Singana village, Dangs
district.
June 23, Gujarat: After two Muslim youths elope with Hindu
girls from Randhikpur village, VHP and Bajrang Dal squads
force over 400 Muslim villagers to leave their homes in an act
of collective reprisal. The administration and the police stand
by and watch as independent fact-finding teams and journalists
visiting Randhikpur are attacked.
June 29, Gujarat: A prayer hall in Umerpada village in Dangs
district is attacked by assailants who, however, fail in their attempts
to set it on fire.
July 3, New Delhi: News breaks of the plans of the BJP Government
of Delhi to remove churches from the list of recognised places of
worship on the pretext that wine is served (as a holy sacrament) in
the churches.
 July 8, Gujarat: The body of Samuel Christian is exhumed from
a graveyard in Kapadvanj in Nadiad district, allegedly by VHP
activists, and dumped near a Methodist church nearby.
July 11, Maharashtra: Two Christian workers are reportedly beaten in
Bhind.
July 12, Gujarat: Christians gathered for worship at a prayer
hall in Dhavalidod are threatened by the village leader. The
church's lock was broken later the same day and a cross removed.
 July 17, Karnataka: VHP activists raid at least 11 Christian-run
schools in Bangalore, Mysore, Mandya and Mangalore, disrupting
their functioning. In one case, a nun who protested was spat at.
 July 18, Gujarat: The Shantiniketan High School in Zankhav near
Surat, run by Christian missionaries, is vandalised. The playground
is ploughed with a tractor. (Violence follows false reports in the
Gujarati language press that the school's adivasi students are
forcibly converted, whereas only 152 of the school's 750
students are Christians.)
July 18, Gujarat: A prayer hall is burnt down in Bhapkal village in
Dangs district.
July 18, Tamil Nadu: An Assemblies of God church is attacked
and church materials are looted in Anaipalayam.
July 20, Gujarat: Copies of the New Testament are burnt allegedly
by VHP and Bajrang Dal activists at IP Mission School in Rajkot.
The VHP says that the request on a page in the copies of the
Bibles distributed by Gideons International asking believers to
sign as proof that they have accepted Jesus Christ as their
saviour is evidence of forcible conversions.
 July 23, Gujarat: Mobs allegedly led by a low-level revenue
official attack on adivasis at a prayer meeting in Borkhal village.
  July 24, Gujarat: Bajrang Dal and RSS activists attack Catholic
priests in Isar, a small adivasi village near Zankhav.
 July 25, Gujarat: The body of a Christian is exhumed from a
graveyard in Gandhinagar, allegedly by Bajrang Dal activists.
August 9, Gujarat: A church is destroyed allegedly by RSS
cadre in Ahmedabad.
August 15, Gujarat: Communal riots break out in Sanjeli against
the background of the BJP-VHP's efforts to communalise inter-community
weddings. The home of a Christian priest, Joe Vas, is attacked.
(Riots follow a Dharam Sabha organised in the town three days
earlier, where BJP-VHP leaders made speeches inciting
adivasis against Muslims. Independent investigators found
that in this case the root cause of the riot was the local
panchayat's refusal to honour court orders granting a
Muslim fishing rights in a local pond.)
 August 15, Uttar Pradesh: Bajrang Dal and VHP cadre attack
church activists in Robertsganj.
August 25, West Bengal: Bikash Das, a church worker, is
allegedly assaulted by a Trinamul Congress leader.
August 31, Bihar: A church is demolished in Kobatoli village in
Gumla district.
 September 5, New Delhi: The Bajrang Dal announces that it will
launch a 'new Quit India Movement' to remove all Christian
missionaries from the country. The organisation, along with the
VHP, demands an end to forced conversions they allege are taking place.
September 23, Madhya Pradesh: A crowd allegedly led by a
BJP MLA attack Edward Sarel, a Christian priest, in Jhamli village,
10 km from Jhabua.
September 23, Uttar Pradesh: Nuns at the Clarist Convent in
Baghpat are assaulted.
September 25, Madhya Pradesh: Nuns are raped at a Christian
convent in Jhabua. Although specific culpability for the incident
remains unclear, it came in the wake of the VHP-BJP's anti-Christian
campaign.
September 26, Uttar Pradesh: Police and local administration
officials barge into the Jiwan Jyoti Christian Hospital campus in
Robertsganj and allegedly misbehave with patients and hospital staff.
September 26, Uttar Pradesh: Activists of the Hindu Jagran Manch,
the Bajrang Dal and the Rana Tharu Parishad break into the Union
Church at Amaun near Khatima in Udham Singh Nagar district
and install a Siva idol.
September 26, New Delhi: A statue of St. Bernard is broken and
thrown out of the grounds of Jesus and Mary College in New Delhi.
September 30, New Delhi: Acharya Giriraj Kishore, secretary-general
of theVHP, asks Christian missionaries to leave India.
 October 1, Gujarat: The VHP and Bajrang Dal ban pop dandiya
ras dancing in several cities of Gujarat and forbid Muslim film
stars from participating in these events.
 October 1, Rajasthan: School books are found to have been
rewritten to suit the Hindu Right's agenda. Articles by RSS
chief Rajendra Singh, his deputy K.S. Sudershan, Panchjanya
editor Tarun Vijay and the Swadeshi Jagran Manch's
Jalam Singh Rawlot found to appear in Class 9 textbooks.
 October 1, Karnataka: Convent schools in Karnataka and some
other States begin to receive threatening letters and in some cases
visits by local VHP leaders demanding that they stop their supposed
prosletysation activities.
October 1, Uttar Pradesh: The Uttar Pradesh Government issues
a Government Order making the singing of Vande Mataram
mandatory in schools in the State. Public outrage and the threat
of legal action by the Minorities Commission and independent
groups force it to back down and lead to the resignation of the
Education Minister.
 October 7, Uttar Pradesh: The staff of the Christy Jyoti Convent
School in Baghpat is threatened by villagers who have been told
that children are forcibly converted there.
October 18, Maharashtra: Christian villagers in Karye Sadapada
village near Peth are attacked after they refuse to make contributions
of cash and rice for an adivasi festival. A church is destroyed.
   October 27, Uttar Pradesh: The BJP-dominated Municipal
Corporation of Ayodhya passes a resolution banning burials
within the city limits. Ayodhya has a large Muslim population
and is the site of several graveyards.
 October 30, Gujarat: Bajrang Dal-VHP members armed with belts,
chains and lathis attack delegates at the National Christian Conference
in Baroda.
 October 31, New Delhi: A spokesperson for Vidya Bharati,
the pro-RSS educational body, says that 14-year-old school-children
should not be taught "salacious texts", which in its view includes
poems by Alfred Noyes.
 November 3, Gujarat: VHP members attack social groups
seeking to end anti-women exorcism rituals at the Kaliyaji
temple in Shamlaji.
 November 4, Gujarat: Miscreants, allegedly instigated by
VHP-Bajrang Dal workers, attempt to set fire to a chapel
in Baurigautha village in Dangs district. Churches in Nirgumandal
village are also damaged.
 November 5, Gujarat: A church is burned down at Gadhavi
village in Dangs district.
  November 9, Haryana: A convent in Khera Khummar village in
Jhajjar district is
broken into and two nuns are beaten and asked to leave the district.
  November 11, Gujarat: Hindu fundamentalists force residents of
Daghunia village
  near the Satpura road in Dangs to enter hot springs for ritual
purification. The village
 sarpanch also issues orders barring adivasi Christians from drawing
water from the
 community well, grazing their livestock on community land and gaining
employment in government projects.
 November 12, Gujarat: Churches are burned down in Kamath village.
November 13, Haryana: A missionary team from Punjab is
attacked by VHP activists in Beri town while distributing
leaflets on gospels.
November 24, Karnataka: Forty armed Hindu activists, allegedly
affiliated to the RSS, attack a Christian service at Kulai near
Mangalore.
  December 6, 1992: Hindutva hordes bring  down the Babri Masjid.
  December 1, Maharashtra: Lumpen elements
  belonging to the Shiv Sena storm cinemas in
   Mumbai and stop screenings of Deepa Mehta's
    film Fire on the grounds that it is "anti-Hindu".
 December 3, Karnataka: Police action terminates a rath yatra
organised by VHP activists with the public support of Karwar's
BJP MP Ananthakumar Hegde to storm the Sufi shrine of Hazrat
Abdul Azeez Macci at Chikmagalur. The VHP and the BJP claim
that the shrine is in fact a Hindu temple, which they wish to call Datta
Peetha.
December 3, New Delhi: Shiv Sena lumpens attack cinemas
screening Fire and follow this up with attacks on a cinema in
Patiala, Punjab.
 December 11, Maharashtra: Shiv Sena corporators in the
Brihanmumbai Municipal Corporation move a motion to
make the singing of Vande Mataram mandatory in Greater
Mumbai's schools.
December 12, Maharashtra: Shiv Sena protestors throw stones
at actor Dilip Kumar's house for saying that Fire has a right to
be screened. Vulgar slogans are chanted by Sena activists who
strip down to their underwear. The police stand by.
December 14, Gujarat: Churches are burned down at
Lachanchariya village and several other places.
 December 24, Maharashtra: Christmas celebrations in Mumbai's
Bandra suburb are disrupted by Bajrang Dal activists.
December 25, Gujarat: A VHP-affiliated Hindu Jagran Manch rally
in Ahwa town in Dangs district, timed to coincide with Christmas
gatherings, ends with attacks on schools and churches throughout
the district. The attacks last several days. (The rally was preceded
by the distribution of offensive pamphlets about Christian priests and
nuns.)

                                          1999

 January 5, Maharashtra: The VHP-affiliated Dharmarakshan Samiti
holds a rally in Peth to "re-convert" adivasi Christians and asks
Christian missionaries to leave the area.
January 6, New Delhi: Shiv Sena activists dig up the pitch at
Ferozeshah Kotla cricket stadium to prevent an India-Pakistan
match from being played there. The Sena also threatens to
disrupt a New Delhi-Lahore bus service.
 January 18, Maharashtra: The office of the Board of Control for
Cricket in India in Mumbai is stormed by Shiv Sena activists and
trophies of historic value are damaged.
  January 18, Tamil Nadu: The Shiv Sena unit in Chennai threatens
to disrupt "at any cost" the first India-Pakistan cricket Test
scheduled to be held in the city.
 January 19, Maharashtra: Members of Cable Sena, a union
of Shiv Sena-affiliated cable television operators, threaten to
cut off broadcasts of the India-Pakistan cricket series and boycott
the ESPN sports channel.
 January 19, Maharashtra: Political activists and journalists protesting
against the Shiv Sena's attack on the BCCI office are arrested, but no
action is taken against the group that indulged in violence. The police
refuse to file First Information Reports from protestors who allege
brutality.
January 20, Mumbai: Shiv Sena leader Uddhav Thackeray
announces that Kashmiri Muslim traders will not be allowed
to set up shop in Goa.
January 23, Orissa: Graham Stewart Staines and his two sons
Philip, 9, and Timothy, 6, are burnt to death at Manoharpur village.
January 23, Gujarat: A mob attacks and burns down two
Christian prayer halls in Songarh taluk in Surat district.

here is list of things happen under BJP govt:

>I was always for freedom of speech,etc when the film Fire was there,
>but i thought it stupid to have some things banned and some things
>not, Bal Thackeray is obviosuly annoyed with Rushdie about that book
>so how can you say he rules the BJP, Thackeray hates Rushdie as much
>as the Mullah who placed a fatwas on Rushdie without reading the
>book...
>
>All this protests is being oprhcestrated by a tiny minority of
>attention seeking idiots who have a lot of influence, but nothing is
>going to happy so people dont get your hopes up...Rushdie's probably
>already landed in India without us knowing...
>
You double talking yourself, the reason you posted this article to get
attention, if rush-to-die obtained visa with no public announcement by BJP,
would have been safe for him and their would not have been any criticism of
BJP.

Desi-Patriot 
Post reply
2/20/99
On 19 Feb 1999 23:04:39 GMT, mun...@aol.com (Muna123) wrote:
>>All this protests is being oprhcestrated by a tiny minority of
>>attention seeking idiots who have a lot of influence, but nothing is
>>going to happy so people dont get your hopes up...Rushdie's probably
>>already landed in India without us knowing...
>>
>
>You double talking yourself, the reason you posted this article to get
>attention, if rush-to-die obtained visa with no public announcement by BJP,
>would have been safe for him and their would not have been any criticism of
>BJP.
Well it's quite symbolic move, just like Khatami in Iran delcaring
himself seperated from the Fatwa on Rushdie.....and anyways it was the
Western Media that was making such a big deal out of all this....
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